The ULTIMATE Thai Ladyboys, Katoeys, Katoys, Kathoeys Guide…
Is that a Thai ladyboy you’ve been talking to for the last 2 hours, plastered out of your senses?
Here is the definitive checklist of all possible ways you can tell whether she is really a Thai girl or a Thai boy. And then, you aren’t really going to know until she drops trou… and then you may STILL not know because if she is a “cut” Thai ladyboy and she spent 100K Thai baht or more on taking away the snake, you aren’t going to know until you’re well on your way to heaven (or somewhere else).
Even THEN you may STILL not know because you might be drunk, or just not been with enough real girls to know the difference. With that said, here’s the checklist of everything I could think of that tells me that I’m talking to a Thai ladyboy… commit it to memory!
Differences in Ladyboys’ vs. Girls’ General Anatomy that May Tip You Off:
1. Ladyboys are tall and bigger framed. Their shoulders are usually wider. Thai ladyboys are guys biologically even when they’re taking the estrogen pills they are STILL producing testosterone, but now in addition to male anatomy they are growing chests and widening their hips, slimming their stomachs and making their skin more feminine. Thai ladyboys usually have male bone structure and muscles. They are naturally toned more firmly than a lady. Try feeling the bicep if you get a chance or shaking hands and squeezing hard – sometimes they’ll squeeze back harder than you and you might have a strong clue right there… Thai Guys rarely have a slender waist and wide hips, however I have seen some of the most PERFECT waists and hips on ladyboys here in Thailand.
2. Adam’s apple – usually Thai ladyboys have one or will be trying to hide it with their hair, clothes, hand, the way they hold their head down, or something else.
3. Thai Ladyboys may have more visible veins in their arms and hands, forehead, or anywhere really. Girls naturally have a higher percentage of fat under their skin which hides veins more. Ladyboys’ veins may show especially on the back of the hand, forearm, temples, and legs. Many ladyboys play or played football, volleyball, ta-graw or other sports (badminton) and have built up a sports-like body. Girls in Thailand rarely play more than badminton and if they do they aren’t likely to be sporting veins you can see too easily.
4. Have a look at the ladyboy’s waist and hips. Rarely are they picture perfect, but they may be hiding that area with a dress or baggy shirt. Usually a girl will accent that area as it’s naturally nice. A Thai ladyboy with perfect waist and hips will too – a ladyboy without perfect waist and hips will not.
5. Large feet and hands. A large pinky fingernail on their either or both hands can point to a ladyboy or a gay guy at times. I’ve also seen gang type members with the pinky nail – it skeeves me out hard-core. I’d rather never see another one. I don’t “get it”.
6. Strange n i p p l e s. You might need to wait until you get him home, but often times a Thai ladyboy is bold enough to show you them right there in the bar. They just aren’t the same as a woman’s, you know?
7. Strange chest… A man’s body is wider than a girls. Hence, when these Thai ladymen are taking estrogen to make their breasts grow there is a gap between them of just flat chest. If the breasts are the mountains and the chest is the valley on a girl… then on a ladyboy it’s more like the breasts are the mountain (small mountains in Thailand though) and there’s a PLATEAU between the mountains – not really a valley. Just a flat space that could not be mistaken for cleavage – it’s a flat spot, that’s all.
8. Hair on the face – especially in the early morning hours this might become apparent as the Thai ladyboys probably haven’t shaved for 12 hours or so. Sometimes 18. Even Thai ladyboys have hair growing out of their chin and upper lip!
9. Smoking – usually girls don’t smoke. If you are in Pattaya or Patong or some other sex-tourist area you will find a higher percentage of girls that smoke, but ladyboys seem to smoke more than girls.
Thai Ladyboys’ vs. Girls’ Behavior
1. When shemales speak they are quiet. Or, when they speak they have an unnatural voice. Or, when they speak they don’t have an even flowing kind of voice – it’s “not smooth tones connecting into smooth tones” if that makes any sense at all. Their voice is not fluid. Their bass level is not smooth – meaning that sometimes certain words or phrases or reactions to things that you say, or their laugh – may all the sudden get very bassy – a deep sound coming from this petite sweetheart that doesn’t make sense to you even if you are drunk.
2. Coughing and sneezes. If you hear a Thai ladyboy cough – it’s something that is very hard to do in a female fashion. They HAVE the big vocal cords like a man and so the cough sometimes has a very deep bass sound that cannot be easily hidden if it’s a real cough. A sneeze also – sometimes a ladyboy cannot sneeze like a girl.
3. Laughing. Again, another hard thing to fake, but if it’s a fake laugh it’s easy to fake the tone of it to make you think it’s feminine. If it’s a real hearty laugh – you may get a glimpse of the guy behind the disguise as it will be a deep, bassy laugh.
4. Ladyboys typically speak English better than the Thai girls in Thailand. I’m guessing that the ladyboys speak English to each other more when they are amongst themselves. I know lady boys need to try harder to land a date than girls do. That means they probably talk more than Thai girls. They seem to be better focused on the business aspect of short time love for cash. They seem to understand that the better they speak English the better they’ll be able to make money. In addition to all these reasons, I think most ladyboys start their behavior in high-school. I’ve taught enough of them to know them when I see them. Most know they’ll be ladyboys by 16 years old. I think they too might have the idea of being a “superstar” ladyboy in Pattaya, Bangkok, Patong or Chiang Mai and know that knowing English and being able to interact with foreigners is a ticket to being able to make more cash. The young Thai ladyboys I’ve taught in school seemed to have a good command of English and were able to speak it at a higher level than the average student.
5. When ladyboys and girls are looking for guys (dates) they go about it differently… the ladyboys that are looking are almost always more obvious about it – not shy, quiet or covert like the Thai women.
If you are looking at a Thai woman with an “interest” she will know quickly – and you may not even see her at the point of discovering you watching her. They are so expert. So too are the ladyboys, but if a ladyboy catches you looking at her even 1 time and even for the slightest bit longer than what might be a casual glance he will let you know he saw you by meeting your eyes and by not letting you out of his sight until he has made eye contact and assessed what your intentions are. If you already know it’s a ladyboy and you don’t want to have a conversation it’s best to NEVER look at the ladyboy again because he WILL come over or do something to get your attention and conversation. Hopefully for you it won’t be a squeeze of the jewels or kiss on your ear.
Even if you DON’T make any more glances in his direction he may still come over and make the first move to come and talk to you. A girl might rarely do this, but a girl does not have the balls so to speak, to go up to guys that she thinks looked at her. A Thai ladyboy does, and probably will. Like I said, a ladyboy is business focused. He KNOWS that if you’re even half interested he can get some money out of you. A girl doesn’t have the confidence to be as manipulative outright – she does it in a much different, and maybe more potent way… playing you like a marionette.
6. Ladyboys are more aggressive with each other – more catty. More confrontational. They are louder with each other and make jokes about each other – causing each other to lose face more often – and they are more forgiving of it with each other because the ladyboys are afraid of fighting each other. They are NOT afraid of fighting a girl or a farang (foreigner) for some reason. I guess they know a girl cannot beat them and a farang typically WON’T beat them because there’s something in our in-grained behavior about punching a person in a dress in the mouth. It’s hard to do even if we KNOW it’s a technically a guy with equipment.
7. Thai Ladyboys dress really well. Or at least they attempt to. Often they are better dressed than ANY woman in Thailand will be. They go the extra mile to overdress. Whereas the typical Thai girl in Thailand will dress casually but maybe with a nice shirt. Or maybe just a nice pair of pants. They typically don’t NEED to do any more than that because they’ll still find dates. A ladyboy goes the whole way, heels, tight pants, tight shirt, bra that’s stuffed, hair done.
8. Ladyboys wear FAR more makeup than girls wear. If you’re wearing a dark shirt try to get her face up against your sleeve once and then check when she’s not looking if your sleeve turned white. Check the white to make sure, baby powder – which might indicate a girl more times than a ladyboy or, makeup as in some kind of coverup makeup that is liquid-based and smears which would more times than not I’d say indicate a ladyboy’s makeup.
9. Here is one way I learned from an expert in Patong Beach. This guy owned multiple bars and some of them employed cut Thai ladyboys as dancers.
We were out on the town one night and he told me his one favorite way to pick out a ladyboy that most people don’t know about. He looks for someone with an upper arm – humerous – I think – that is shorter in proportion to the rest of the body than a girl’s upper arm. Men have a shorter one. Girls usually have a longer one. This is why when you see a girl with a short upper arm it makes you feel strange – and the girl is not that attractive… to me anyway. If I see a girl with a short upper arm I think there is something very strange about her and I’m instantly turned-off by her.
To compensate for their short upper arm you may see them standing but resting their elbow on their waist. They think they’re hiding the length of their arm and looking more feminine. They know all the tricks – so this one must work. But, if you’re aware you can see Thai ladyboys standing like that – it’s very obvious because Thai women don’t usually stand like that.
10. One thing you’ll probably NEVER see a Thai girl do that a ladyboy WILL do is show you the chest area while in the bar or anywhere remotely public. A ladyboy is proud of them and doesn’t really feel the stigma attached to baring them in Thai society because he didn’t grow up with them – they are estrogen induced or bought. You will also never, ever, EVER see a real girl squirt milk in a public place but a ladyboy will pop you in the eye with it if you’re not careful.
If you’ve failed to notice any of the 21 tips I gave you above and you’re on the way back to your room with a girl or someone you think is a girl… watch for these tricks…
If the Thai ladyboy is in your car, on your motorbike or in a tuk-tuk or song-taew they may start grabbing at your goods already. A girl can do this too – but with ladyboys they are anxious to get things going. Not sure why this is. They are much more aggressive like this on the way to the room.
If you ask a lady if she is a ladyboy she will say no. She might be embarrassed or ask why you think that… She might think she is very pretty or she might think she is not pretty… the reaction varies. Most Thai people think that ladyboys are the most beautiful – even above Thai women. That is a unbelievable fact, but true. Many Thais have told me that, both male and female, young and old. If you ask a ladyboy, is he a ladyboy, he will give you all kinds of exaggerated answers. One of the favorites is, “Don’t I look like lady?” Or, they might grab your hand and place it on their crotch and rub it up and down forcefully. If they do this maneuver you almost 100% have a ladyboy with you and best to call off the date ASAP. And probably go wash your hand.
If you are in Pattaya or Patong Beach and your “date” is trying to get you to go towards the beach to do the nasty you should (must) consider that you have picked a ladyboy. There aren’t ANY girls that will do you on the beach that I’m aware of. The beach area at night is the ladyboys’ domain. They sometimes will rob you there, gang up on you with a few of them, or just try to give you a quick oral magic moment and disappear before you discover he is a she.
Thai Ladyboys typically try to get farangs (foreigners) to go to the beach with them for a couple reasons:
1. The one you’re with might have ladyboy friends down at the beach and they’re all going to rip you off by taking whatever cash you have on you.
2. The ladyboy is trying to get you to just go for some oral action instead of getting back to your room where the ladyboy’s clothes will come off and you’ll see what he’s got. In fact, anytime the person your with is strongly pushing oral over regular you should be very concerned as Thai girls don’t typically like oral that much – they’d rather have straight over oral any day. The ladyboy would much rather do oral because there’s a good chance if you were fooled up to the point that you decide to barfine him or take him to your room you’ll be fooled with just receiving oral for your money too.
Another trick…
If you get back to the room and all the sudden the girl is saying that she is on her monthly period and wants you to just accept oral instead this is highly suspect. A Thai girl will usually tell you at the outset that she’s on her period so you’re not expecting to have straight sx with her. That’s another thing Thai girls are not really into – doing it during their period. Neither are most of us – so no worries I think. But, Thai ladyboys will use this trick to get you to accept oral. Be careful if they say nothing until you’re 5 minutes away from the action and all the sudden “she” has her period. Highly suspect!
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