This is a Guess… Thai Ladyboys Smoke More than Thai Girls.
I’ve been mulling over one more way that you can tell a Thai ladyboy from a Thai girl more easily than sticking your hands down her pants.
I think I’m going to guess that Thai ladyboys smoke more often than the Thai girls do. That’s something that’s easier to see in a place like Udonthani in the north where there aren’t so many female sex workers - but a ton of ladyboys… it’s more difficult in a place like Pattaya where quite a few girls will smoke too.
Just a guess - anyone think differently?
Meet Your New Village Chief: Ladyboy Choochat Dulayapraphatsorn
In Samut Prakan they’ve made history by appointing the first ladyboy village chief ever.
The newly appointed is now district chief of Tai Ban Mai village in Samut Prakan just about 30 km north of Bangkok, Thailand.
He/she goes by the name “Sister KOB”. Is that name appropriate or what? Like corn on the cob you know? Man the more I think about that I LOVE that name.
Choochat stated that he thought he won the election because he had a good record of serving the community including crime prevention and catching pythons (huge snakes) that have entered people’s homes among other good deeds.
“I’m confident that everyone here loves and accepts me,” Choochat told the Bangkok Post. “Even though I am a transvestite, I can do hard, physical jobs just as well as men if not better,” he added.
So there you have it. I’m not sure I could see this happening stateside. Of course the voters wouldn’t likely vote a transsexual into office either. Maybe it’s been done already? I really should research that…
Thai Ladyboy Students Video (Private Ladyboys Toilet)
The school in Sisaket province is making real world-wide news with their recent decision to put a ladyboys toilet in at their secondary school. The Reuters video is apparently making the rounds. I learned about this from Gay Boy Thailand - he scooped me on it.
Video of Thai Ladyboy Students at Sisaket School >
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Separate “Hoang Naam” (Restroom) for Thai Ladyboys in School
In Isaan there is a secondary school that created a ladyboy restroom for students after a survey of students found 200 ladyboys out of 2600 students! That’s almost 8% of the school’s population! If we generalize that to the population of Thailand that would mean there are around 5 MILLION THAI LADYBOYS in Thailand. Is that possible? I think possible, yes. Likely - no. I think there must be a million though - a very sizeable amount!
The ladyboy toilet is marked by a sign on the door - half man in blue and half woman in red. Apparently nobody questions kids at the entrance to the facilities to ascertain if they’re man-woman-or ladyboy. Maybe they should.
I’m unclear by the article if “Kampang” is the name of the school or the city this school is in. Do they mean, Kamphaengphet, a city about 360 km east of Bangkok?
Apparently this is not the first instance of ladyboy designated restrooms… a tech school in Chiang Mai created a “Pink Lotus” restroom for fifteen of it’s ladyboy students five years prior to this.
Amazing Thailand…
Jim Sara - Thailand’s FIRST Ladyboy?
A Thai magazine had an article that Stephen Cleary translated about Jim Sara - a former actor that completed a full sex change operation (transgender surgery) in 1976 becoming the first Thai to EVER do so. She claims to be Thailand’s 1st Real Ladyboy. How old do you think she is in this photo? Find out when you read the story - you’ll probably guess wrong by a decade.
Interesting Thai ladyboy reading - Thanks Stephen!
Jim Sara, Thailand’s First Ladyboy? >
There are two parts - don’t miss part two at the bottom of the page.
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Thai Ladyboy Research & Resources in PDF format
Here is a list of Thai ladyboy research & resources for treating transgendered people on campuses and in healthcare systems. These are PDF files (Adobe Acrobat .pdf) you can download to learn more about ladyboys, gay, bisexual, and lesbian issues in Thailand as well as around the world. In particular there are some great articles on the experience of the ladyboy in prison and within the health care system and on university campuses such as MIT and Mennonite campuses. I’ve reviewed all of the pdfs you’ll find here - some are excellent - especially those related specifically to Thai ladyboys. The best PDF of the whole group on this topic is #12 as it relates to Thai ladyboys and gives estimates on the number of ladyboys in Thailand and other great information.
Feel free to link to this page - the files will always be here. Usually I snag the whole file or photo if I post it on this site for two reasons: 1. I eat the bandwidth costs. 2. I know the link to the file is ALWAYS good - and results in good experience for visitors here to the site. I make no claim to ownership or collaboration on any of these files - these were all found through a Google search and are in tact in their original format. If you are the owner of any of the pdf files found here and you wish it removed please contact me.
Right click the blue link below and choose “Save target as…” or “Save file as…” and sometimes it’s “Save link as…” I believe, depending which browser you’re using. Save to a location on your desktop so you can find it and open later after fully downloading. You probably DON’T want to left-click on the blue links as Adobe Acrobat will open up in your browser and lock everything up. Better to right click and save!
Transgender (Ladyboy, Transsexuals, Cross-dressers), Lesbian, Bisexual, and Gay Issues Articles in PDF format:
2. Male - Female Transsexuals Research (a review)
3. Transgender Inequality & Discrimination Penalties.
4. Distrust of medicine among Transgender People.
5. Report of gay, lesbian, transgender needs and experiences in Lambeth.
6. Men having sex with men - HIV report.
7. Flying the rainbow flag in Asia: Gay, Lesbian, Ladyboys.
8. Gay issues in youth including transgender.
9. Youth and Porn Study from Australia Institute. A rather large report on viewing of pornography and it’s possible (probable?) effects.
10. Guidelines to Caring for Transgender Adolescents in British Columbia.
11. Transgender emergence guide for social workers.
12. Sexual Health needs of males having sex with males in Thailand Laos. EXCELLENT!
13. Working with transgender professionals (Kit).
14. Info packet from the Brethren, Mennonite Council on Gay, Lesbian, Bi, Transgender Issues on Campus. There is a really good overview of biblical verses relating to homosexuality here if you are interested. Most verses that in the past were taken to expressly mean homosexuality is forbidden by god can also be interpreted other ways… like homosexual RAPE is prohibited… Worth a read.
15. Male to Female Gender Information Kit (The Gender Centre in Australia).
16. Transgender Prisoner Issues in the USA. A transgender man to woman was placed in a prison cell with a much larger inmate who proceded to rape her. She sued a California County. Issues of incarceration and transgender populations. PDF #24 below also deals with this issue.
17. Sex Reassignment Surgery at King Chulalongkorn Memorial Hospital in Bangkok. This one is an overview of some patients that had gender reassignment surgery at this famous hospital in Bangkok. Issues of physical, mental, emotional adjustment are mentioned. Photos of male and female transgender genitalia are within. Please don’t open unless you are of age in your country to view such material.
18. Student Transgender Issues at MIT. Though MIT is a progressive institution, the author believes it’s not progressive enough when it comes to transgender issues of students.
19. Residential and Community Care of Transgender People.
20. Prostitution and Sex Tourism in Cuba - including Ladyboys. A brief history of Cuba, prostitution relating to Castro’s plan for Socialism and what not. Interesting to me - having lived in Florida for many years and having some Cuban friends and co-workers.
21. Pink Ceiling is Too Low: Workplace Experiences of Lesbians, Gay, Transgender People. Trying to get ahead when you’re different… More difficult than it should be.
22. Postgenderism: Beyond the Gender Binary in the USA.
23. Men who have sex with men in Phuket, Thailand. This is good reading about Thai ladyboys and gays in Phuket, especially the area around Patong Beach.
24. Transgender Experience of Prison.
25. Sex Reassignment Surgery in Thailand.
26. Ladyboy Beauty Contests in Thailand.
Thai Ladyboys - Katoeys, Best Web Site for the Money?
I decided to link everything on this blog to my friend’s site, and just focus on that because I reviewed his site with a free password and found he has more Thai ladyboys on there than I even thought. He told me he has over 200 sets that he hasn’t even published yet!
If you want to join a site that has 1 guy running it that cares about his customers and that will answer your personal email if you have any concerns - and you want a SHITELOAD of Thai ladyboys/katoeys content in the form of photos and videos - join this site after looking around a bit >>
If you’re interested he has more than just this site… he has a group of sites - bondage, hypnosis, asian girls, and ladyboys sites. All of them unique and with content that hasn’t been shared all over the web by this point.
If you want custom content shot with girls or ladyboys - he’ll shoot it for you for very decent rates.
Authentic Thai Ladyboys site by a guy
that cares about his customers! >
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Bangkok Cabaret Shows are NOT Trashy or A Place to Pick Up a Ladyboy
But, if you happen to be outside after the show you could discreetly slip a phone number, hotel room number or something of the sort into the ‘right one’s’ hand if you’re discreet about it. Some may laugh at you, some may ignore you… others may find your hotel room at just the right (or wrong) time.
Here’s an article in the UK about a guy that’s ‘pro’ Ladyboy Cabarets…
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2008 Miss Tiffany Ladyboy Universe Contest (5-30-2008)
Who?
Thai transvestites of Thai citizenship.
Age: 18-26
What?
Miss Tiffany ladyboy universe contest judging ladyboy contestants on basis of:
- Beauty!
- Intelligence!
- Personaltiy!
There will be awards for a variety of designations:
- “Miss Ladyboy Congeniality”
- “Miss Ladyboy Best Costume”
- “Miss Photogenic Ladyboy”
- “Miss Ripley’s Most Beautiful Ladyboy Wo-Man 2008″
Winner will receive 100,00 Baht in cash, crown, trophy & sash, car, and gift set from sponsors.
If you’re going to this once a year ladyboy extravaganza and can get some photos for this blog - I’ll give you full credit and a link back to your site or blog if you have one. If you have some awesome photos I’ll pay you for them.
What is a Ladyboy? What isn’t a Ladyboy?
A lot of people have a lot of different ideas about what a ladyboy is and what a ladyboy isn’t. First of all, a ladyboy is a person, with feelings like you and I. It’s a person that has fought a battle to be who she feels like she is - no matter what the world is telling her. A ladyboy has likely experienced a life quite different from her peers. She probably has had a tumultuous life. Probably she’s even had fist fights over choosing to be a ladyboy. Maybe she’s been beat or raped over it. I’ve talked to some that have told me they’ve been raped by guys and other ladyboys. I think it probably happens quite often.
I’ve never been beat up or raped because how I wanted to dress or act. Straight men acting straight grow up differently and don’t really get the whole ladyboy phenomenon. As I’m sure I don’t. Living in Thailand for over three years and having met many ladyboys and even called some ‘friends’ I want to share a little bit about my perspective on this unique group of people.
Andrew Dice Clay (Diceman) once commented on telling the difference between a gay man and others is that, “You either suck D, or you don’t suck D.” That’s all - that was his criteria. I thought it was funny then, but really there’s much more to it than that. In the case of what constitutes a ladyboy - there is MUCH more to it than that.
What IS a ladyboy? I have a blanket definition that I usually use. It’s wrong sometimes, and a lot of people won’t agree - but, nobody agrees on the definition of what a ladyboy is - so… up to you. In general my definition is that being a ladyboy has to do with appearance. A ladyboy is a man trying to look like a woman. He may moonlight as a ladyboy or he may act that way every single day. He may have surgery to become a woman or he may just wear his sister’s stuffed bra and lipstick.
There are many words that are used to mean “ladyboy”. Here are some: lady boy, ladyman, girlman, girlyman, crossdresser, transsexual, tranny, trannie, shemale, she male, shehe, heshe, transgendered. Here in Thailand the Thai people call them “katoey” which is spelled many different ways: gatoy; katoy; kratoy; gratoy; kathoey; krathoey.
Wikipedia - that public encyclopedia that pretends to spew the unbiased truth about all subjects in the universe, calls a ladyboy,
What is a ladyboy? It’s easier to start with what a ladyboy isn’t…
What a Ladyboy isn’t:
1. A man that doesn’t either dress as a woman or change his appearance in some obvious way to look like a woman (makeup, nails, hair).
2. A man that hangs out with other, obvious ladyboys but doesn’t look like a woman. If he acts like a woman - no matter. Gay men can act as a woman, and yet not try to look like a woman at all. That’s gay, not ladyboy.
3. A man that shaves his arm hair, leg hair, underarm hair, tucks his trout between his legs and dances on the stage. If he’s not making an attempt to LOOK like a woman? If yes - ladyboy.
4. A man that has sex with other men - even plays submissive (bottom) and talks in a feminine way, yet doesn’t make any attempt aesthetically to LOOK like a woman.
5. A man that naturally looks feminine. Doesn’t try to look like a woman, but just naturally looks feminine. That has sex with other men - is gay, not a ladyboy.
6. A man that wears women’s clothes, maxi-pads, pantyhose or anything else traditionally reserved for women - which cannot be seen by the public. This is a secret crossdresser, not a ladyboy.
What a ladyboy IS:
1. All public crossdressers are ladyboys.
2. All men wearing lipstick, eyeliner, blush, eye-liner are trying to look like a woman publicly, and so - are ladyboys.
3. Any man with breasts as a result of ingesting estrogen or other hormones for the purpose of growing breasts - is a ladyboy.
4. Any man wearing a bra is a crossdresser, hence, a ladyboy.
5. A man dressing as a woman that has sex with or prefers sex with a man.
6. A man dressing as a woman that has sex with or prefers sex with a woman.
7. A man dressing as a woman that has sex with or prefers sex with another ladyboy.
8. A man dressing as a woman that has sex with or prefers sex with anything.
9. A man that has had transgender surgery to remove the male organs and create the appearance of female organs - functional or not, and regardless whether he tries to change his public appearance (clothes, makeup) to appear as a woman.
So, a working definition for what I think a ladyboy is would go something like this…
A ladyboy is someone that was born a biological man and may or may not have undergone surgery to change his aesthetic genital appearance to that of a woman. Most days he makes attempts to change his appearance to be that of a woman instead of a man. His reasons for wanting to look like a woman can be many and varied. He may want more attention. He may be self-employed as a ladyboy escort, masseuse, cabaret dancer, model or other occupation. He may not feel comfortable playing the role of a man. He may want to feel sexy in a womanly way. There are hundreds of possible reasons a man might want to act as a ladyboy, not all of which I could ever come up with. This man need not dress as a ladyboy daily, but probably does make efforts to look like a woman on a daily basis. Whether he has sex with man, woman or beast makes no difference. He need not have any sex at all to be a ladyboy.
There are some people that don’t fit the definition here. I’m not going to go into genetic abnormalities that create men without fully formed organs and such things.
Ladyboys are an incredibly diverse group of people - within their subculture. Here in Thailand it’s very interesting to watch them after getting to know Thai society a bit and understanding something about how Thai men and women act - and the role that Thai ladyboys play in Thai society. They have created their own niche (subculture) and within that subculture they struggle to find a place they belong… a group of ladyboys they feel comfortable with. There are butch ladyboys, hard-ass ladyboys, aggressive ladyboys, totally submissive ladyboys, shy ladyboys, hilarious ladyboys, ladyboy drunks, ladyboys addicted to narcotics, ladyboy boxers, ladyboy dancers, ladyboy actresses, rich ladyboys, poor ladyboys, ladyboys that don’t like sex, and ladyboy nymphomaniacs.
I’ve seen all these in Thailand. If you haven’t visited here - it’s worth it just for the chance to experience Thai ladyboys. You will leave Thailand with a broader world-view. Maybe even a ladyboy fiance!
Polls
If a Ladyboy was TOO Aggressive, would you punch her knowing her friends were close by?
- No, no farang wins a fight in Thailand. (41%, 33 Votes)
- No, I'd keep trying verbally. (15%, 12 Votes)
- Yes, for grabbing nads or going through pockets. (15%, 12 Votes)
- Not sure, if grabbing my nuts hard - perhaps. (11%, 9 Votes)
- Yes, to get her the hell away from me. (10%, 8 Votes)
- Not sure, if going through my pockets - possibly. (8%, 6 Votes)
Total Voters: 80
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